As you see this originally a question I was pondering when I first saw the show on Friends. 8 years ago. I decided to pull it up again because I was hearing about Oprah's new game show or reality show she is going to air. It has to do with individuals that are going to be handed money to go and do something with it and they are going to be rated for what they do with it and given a prize of more money for themselves if they win. There are a selection of answers that were given to me. Good Deeds Is there such thing as a real Good Deed? Are all Good Deeds selfish? I guess what I am trying to figure out is if when you do a good deed it makes you feel good about yourself, right? It makes you feel good about the good thing that you do for someone else. You do a good deed, most of the time, for something; whether it is a simple thank you or a reward of something. Would you do that good deed for nothing or knowing you would not be thanked? Would you do that good deed just to be nice, just to be a good Christian? I heard this topic ‘selfish good deeds,’ on the television show of “Friends.” Really think about it though. It sounds as if what they were saying was true, “All good deeds ARE selfish.” When you do something nice for someone else, there doesn’t seem to be a way to make it a natural good deed. Altruistic: unselfish concern for the welfare of others. Mom told me to think about this word and definition. Hi Hilary, An example I can think of personally that would show an unselfish good deed is to do the following: Do something nice for someone anonymously and leave a note with them telling them what you appreciate about them and that they've just received a "random act of kindness". Us girls at work do this periodically and I still haven't found out who has given me nice little things, but it doesn't matter - I've done the same thing for other people and have never told them. I received a small plant one time and seeds for my garden another time. Just an idea for you... Jayne Hilary, I do feel good about myself when I do these things, but I don't see it as selfish at all because I'm not doing it just to get acknowledgement or a thank you from someone. Jayne I think that good deeds are not selfish if you are not doing them to be thanked or anything. If you are doing them to please God and serve him like He wants us to. Yeah, you feel good after doing them, but I don't think that is bad. I took the liberty of looking up some Bible passages that might help you: John 13:1-17, and Matthew 25: 31-46. I hope this helps you!  I think the ultimate goal of a Christian ought to be to love, selflessly, without expecting anything in return. If we could figure that out, we'd be doing a pretty good job of reflecting the love of Christ to others. Do most of us get there? Sadly, I would say no. Laura Hi Hilary, The good deed thing is a paradox like the gospels. It comes down to intent. If you intend to do something nice for someone for nothing in return then it is a good deed. Even though when you do the good deed you feel satisfied or great or whatever your intent was authentic. The opposite is true when one does a good deed for what it will bring in return. Peace, Dick You are going to Silver Birch to be the hands and feet of Jesus to others. That is your intent. The fact that you will have a good time and you know you love it is the blessing that comes back to you for your good deed. That ends up being self-care instead of selfish. You are reading your thoughts on this. God reads your heart before you can even put it into words. God knows it is good deeds on your part. Peace, Dick This sounds like an ethics question I've had in previous philosophy classes. There are people who think that the INTENTION of the good deed is what matters, and there are people that think that it is the DEED that matters. The latter referring to consequentialism or utilitarianism. The INTENTION being more of a deontological approach or better known as Kantian ethics. I.E. On one side you have does the outcome of the action or deed deem importance and on the other you have does the "genuine intention" or "means' deem importance. Here's a good example; A person sees a small child drowning in a pond off the side of the road while driving. FOR a UTILITARIAN approach, a moral action would be that which created the most happiness for the greatest number of people. I.E. you save the child regardless. Kant (a famous philosopher) or Deontological ethics says, if your intention of saving the child were for publicity or gratitude, it would be immoral even if the child lived. If, however, your intentions were truly to preserve life, than your action would be moral even if the child died. In answer to your question of whether or not good deeds are truly good deeds... it really depends on the type of person you are. What sort of ethics do you believe in? Etc..... One person may think they are going to hell because they committed one of the seven deadly sins (gluttony), the other may think they are only creating more happiness in the world by making themselves happy. Sorta confusing, but after a few semesters of ethics and/or philosophy.... you'll get the jist. I think that if you do a good deed for someone or a specific group, or whatever good deed you do, it’s to make yourself feel good, or better than others. But joining a campaign against something is different; like a campaign against littering or cutting down rainforests or tobacco. Something like that is part of a whole and not just yourself so that couldn't be selfish. You get what I’m saying. Like you know if you notice like the Cornado Theater remember when it was being remodeled, like right at the beginning? Well they were sending out flyers with envelopes so that you could send them a donation of the amount you desired to send. And if you sent like 2 grand they would name a row after you. Ok, if you’re getting a row named after little ol' you it gives you motivation. You know. But I didn't send money. So whatever. I’m rambling so, talk to you later. Gladys That’s what I meant, that for donations sometimes you get awards, but I don't like those things because they put someone that has lots of money to give away on a pedestal. You know. I hate to use this example, because I haven't read the bible in the longest, but hey, I went to Boylan, and they drilled this stuff in my head. The excerpt goes something like; if you’re going to pray pray in private and don't make a big fuss about praying or fasting or whatever. Do that stuff in private. Otherwise your prayers and fasts mean nothing if you do it for others, and not for God. Ok, so maybe they didn't drill it into my head, because I can hardly remember it. But your question about selfishness carries the same idea. Good deeds should be done for others, not for yourself. You get it? Gladys I believe good deeds are selfish because most people do it for there own benefit. I believe a good deed is one where there is no need to think about it they just do it. Hey Hil, Good deeds are sometimes done selfishly, sometimes not. Most would probably agree that people do things for others and leave strings attached--in other words they will only do something if they get something in return. Christ's example of dying on the cross was truly a selfless act. Only done for our behalf, not to further His agenda or to get something in return. Perhaps even good Christians do things hoping to get more blessings or rewards in heaven, but doing it for any other reason than to serve God is not a lasting reward. I think that area God teaches us for the rest of our lives. I have done 18 workcamps, but I still feel like I am learning something about myself, Christ, and serving others. Some years I learn more than others. We become better Christians by serving others as if they were Christ. With that attitude, we will be better servants of Christ. I want to do what Christ wants, not just to be liked by others--or to advance myself up some ladder of success. Motive is the key--and only the person doing the act will know their heart--or God. Hilary, I try to do something for someone else every day whether it be big or small, for a friend, a relative or a stranger. You never know what kind of day someone else is having and one little nice thing may just make it better for them. I guess I just think the world would be a better place if we all lived by the Golden Rule. Hi Hilary- Thought I'd send you a thought or two about your good deed question. I think "Good deeds" given out of love are a way that we are God's hands and feet. We spread God's love by doing something for others. If we feel good about it, it is not selfish, but rather part of the blessing of God's plan for us to love each other. If you give with an attitude that you are doing so in order to get something in return, then perhaps you miss the point and that is where the selfish reasons for doing something for others come in. In my experiences with you Hilary, I see you often giving from your heart and from God's love. That is not selfish at all. That is part of the gift God has given you for caring and giving to others. That is a gift to be celebrated, not to feel selfish about. I think God intends for these Good Deeds to feel good because His presence is tangible in those circumstances. God knows we will be blessed when we give. That is a way to fill us back up so we can give some more. It's all about where your focus is I suppose. Focus on how God instructs us to give and to love and you will be in the right place. God bless, Hilary: Your question, “Is there such a thing as a real Good Deed?” I want to answer that question as best I can. I, first, looked up the word, “deed”, in the dictionary. It said “A thing done.” Then, also the word “good” and found Moral and “kind.” Thus, “is there such a thing as a real ‘Moral’ and ‘kind’ thing done?” my thoughts are in doing things out of Love of God and others is not a selfish act.” Hilarity, As Christians, we do all things for the glory of God. Do people do good deeds to glorify themselves, yes. Is it wrong, yes. Attitudes like this can cause pride, and other bad things. I hope that I do deeds out of genuine love. I was actually thinking about this yesterday. I helped Mr. Betz paint his whole house and I wanted so badly for it to be without any thought of myself and I think I did. I gave God the glory! And I did because I love the Betz's. See ya. You seem to relate good deeds with love. In the original biblical writings in the Greek language there were three definitions of love. Philia. Or brotherly love, that is love for relatives or people like yourself; Eros, or erotic love, that is love of beautiful or attractive people or things; and finally Agape, or God's love undeserved and unquestioned, sometimes love of the unloved. So you see love is emotional and most generally comes with different motives. Deeds are actions that can different motives also. Motives are internal and can be misinterpreted by others. Be good and do kind things for any reason you choose. Uncle Armer Hey Hilary, About your 'good deeds' paper: I think that good deeds are a combination of both selfish and selflessness. I think it depends on the circumstances...if you're in a position where you may get some kind of reward for your actions, your good deeds will obviously have ulterior motives. However, if you just feel led to do something kind, then your good deeds are completely selfless. To me, good deeds should be genuine and from the heart. If you see something kind and do it without thinking of the possibly rewards, then that's a good deed. It doesn't even have to be something big, just so that you really meant it. I also think that our society is really geared towards getting what YOU want. It doesn't really commend those who just do kind things for no reason. It's almost like we're raised to expect rewards for what we do... Well, that's what I think, hope it helps. Talk to you later Love ya, |